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Collapsing

Biggest one day drop for the dollar against the Euro
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/4460aa54-cc6f-11dd-acbd-000077b07658.html

The dollar is done
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=a1MsoPDHjFS4

California (1/3rd of U.S. GDP)
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122954346309915189.html

Petty theft on the rise
http://money.cnn.com/2008/12/18/news/christmas.trees.fortune/index.htm

Obama, Bushs 3rd term
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=aUFoKztwd6bw&refer=us

Its make or break for retailer this week.
http://www.denverpost.com/business/ci_11265959

dollar down index down 10% in last two weeks, record breaking

Macro-Economics, investing with inevitability at your back.

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25 Responses to “2009 Depression News Update”

  1. fabdrabcrab says:

    Too much talk—– not enough REAL info

  2. lespuppet says:

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    10 videos today, the clown will be in your
    bed at 3 am with a chainsaw in his hand

  3. brisngr9021 says:

    oh shut the hell up.
    we all know your a retard who doesnt know what hes talking about.
    your ’sources’ are proably tabloids.
    L.A times, etc, are usually just tryin to freak ppl out. ask a reporter who aint afraid to say it.

  4. GaryNull says:

    >> Get ready to lose your job, house, car.

    Only have my car left. I rent.

  5. onemindonespirit says:

    Excellent comment, captain obvious.

  6. TruthandJustice101 says:

    2009 = GREAT DEPRESSION
    Get ready to lose your job, house, car.

  7. GaryNull says:

    >> First of all, owning real estate is not taking advantage of people….

    Not all landlords are good people. In my 28 years of renting, half have been great, half have been total scum.

  8. homer30 says:

    “The common idea that America is an immensely rich and affluent country is very much an exaggeration. American affluence is heavily mortgaged. American carries a tremendous burden of debt to its poor people. That this debt must be paid is not only a wish of the do-gooders. Not paying it implies a risk for the social order and for democracy as we have known it.”

    Gunnar Myrdal

  9. onemindonespirit says:

    First of all, owning real estate is not taking advantage of people. That’s a very socialist way of thinking. What’s next? Everything should be free and no one should own anything.

    Secondly, my two tenants are paying their rent just fine thus far thank you.

  10. MillionthUsername says:

    FDIC covers deposits. Bad loans are what disappears. They would have disappeared at a future date if paid and the bank would have its profit, but now it means their liabilities exceed assets so they’re insolvent.

    All banks will not go broke unless everyone demands cash in a panic. Looks like they avoided panic for now. What will happen depends on what the gov’t does at each stage, or the people. I agree that “we’re screwed either way.” Hopefully only for a time.

  11. MillionthUsername says:

    The *prices* of homes and stocks fell, but no _money_ was destroyed. The actual money just changed hands the last time those things were sold.

    The bailouts ARE inflation. They want to re-inflate the bubble. All they can do is print or borrow since they have no money.
    Deflation likely a flash in the pan.

    But hyperinflation goes beyond the mere increase in money supply and prices. It’s destabilizing to the whole of society. At some point, enough people lose faith in the currency that

  12. 1693B says:

    I agree again, but when a bank goes broke, the digital money they hold or the value in their ledgers simply disappears. If there is a huge amount of paper currency in circulation however, you can still have inflation.
    What I see today though, is banks going broke but a severe shortage of paper cash in circulation. The total value of all paper currency in our system doesn’t come anywhere close to the total value of assets in our economy. If the banks go broke and the markets crash, then what?

  13. 1693B says:

    I see what you are saying but I heard somewhere that total bank and market losses add up to something like 50 trillion dollars. The bailout money doesn’t come close to that and asset values, especially houses, aren’t anywhere near bottom yet. The dollar value will collapse but so will most values of the assets in our economy.

    This time is different and I just don’t think we can predict hyperinflation based on historical examples. We’ll have to wait and see. Either way, we’re screwed.

  14. MillionthUsername says:

    “In Germany, after the first World War, the paper money actually existed”

    They had fractional reserve banking and checkbook money just like we do. We use less paper currency only because of technology (credit and debit cards).

    When they made loans then, they were also creating checkbook money. It was just as “digital” as ours is. You don’t need a computer for digital money. You enter it in a ledger. That’s the nature of fractional reserve banking. FRB will always do that.

  15. MillionthUsername says:

    The “digital dollars” DO exist. They are parked in bank accounts and other claims as units of account and figure into pricing just like commodity money would.

    What disappears in a bust is the claim on future income in dollars (debt written off), so it’s deflationary. The bailouts are monetizing the bad debt, so that’s inflationary. But it takes time to manifest.

    I don’t think the supply of paper dollars is really relevant here.

  16. homer30 says:

    tsk, tsk, Depression follows War

  17. inflateablesoulmate says:

    not paper… REAL GOLD.. they can flood the banks with actual bullion … NOT TO back the dollar but to CRASH THE GOLD MARKET… WHY!?… so the dirtbags that run the show can scrape up more illigitimate claims… Insider trading all that. Its been announced already way back in the spring time. They didnt exactly use those words but that is exactly what is going to happen.and theres a video here somewhere
    Its going to happen. sell sell sell. next week your gold may only be worth 350/oz USD

  18. dojufitz says:

    Lets see what happens IF the Comex defaults in Feb…..a hidden surplus of paper gold?
    The Fed can print as much as it wants and create digital dollars over and over….borrowed time my friend…..

  19. inflateablesoulmate says:

    HIDDEN slurplus… sorry

  20. inflateablesoulmate says:

    8000/gold… lol
    ya like thats gonna happen.
    Have a look around fool
    Gold wont even reach 1000 before it dives down to -400 when the fed floods the market with their hidel surplus.
    WAKE UP!

  21. sailfished says:

    from what i’ve seen those that are awake are awake, those that are asleep will not wake up

  22. dojufitz says:

    VV,
    where do you see the DOW\Gold ratio next year?
    Do you think the DOW will crash or will Gold go up to $8000US oz?

  23. PrettypOeroses1 says:

    people are very sleep these days. cold water has to be thrown for folks to wake up

  24. dave777blaster says:

    When the NAU comes and it is coming
    Gold and silver will be reset with new values
    as the NAU will go to silver coinage.and gold coinage too perhaps.
    So watch out for 2010 the NAU comes into effect then
    Do not get burnt to a cinder on this

  25. ehswan says:

    If you know a jeweler you may, through him, buy precious metal “casting grains” at close to spot with no delays in delivery.

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